OT for Ray

January 2, 2009 @ 7:15 pm · Filed under Philippines Internet Koi Society

Oh, you mean those machines that are not affected by malware, yet more of them are infected each day?
We have a business critical application that will not run under Vista. There are many older peripherals that will not run under Vista, often because the manufacturers have not written drivers for them. And if you go to 64-bit Vista, you’ll have even more fun with peripherals.
Keep in mind that my business deals mostly with businesses, small businesses. For many of them, this means that the only upgrade path is to get a new machine to even run Vista. They then need to replace peripherals that will not work with Vista. They may then need to replace apps that no longer work properly–even Office 2003 can have problems running under Vista, depending on what is used. Such an upgrade path can mean the difference between profit and loss for a small business. Also, FWIW, there are very few successful upgrades done in place from XP versions to Vista versions. One really needs to do a bare metal install. Prior to doing so, one needs to ensure that the proper drivers are available for Vista, which is often not the case for even machines 2 years old. In such cases, an upgrade will essentially fail, since one may not be able to properly communicate with the outside world if the drivers are not available.
I have heard the argument that there were driver issues with XP at the beginning, and there were. However, over a relatively short period of time, these issues were resolved (though if you were affected, any period of time is not short). That has not been the case with Vista.
What we have no, pretty much, is two OS’s, one for the consumer user, and the other for business users. Yes, some companies run Vista machine, but not many, and MS is not likely to get much deeper penetration into the business market with Vista than it has now, according to surveys. This had led MS to, yet again, extend the availability of XP Pro. So, yes, Virginia, there are still new machines available with XP loaded. You just will not find them at retail.
\Steve//
> —–Original Message—– > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > Lenny V. aka GoldLenny > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 3:13 PM > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > WHAT???? Have you been watching too many of them dumbed down Apple > commercials? LOL > > I have Vista Home Premium on my newest laptop and haven’t had any > disappointments so far. It’s nothing to jump-for-joy over, compared to XP > Home or Pro, but it’s not problematic either. > > BTW.. I got this HP Pavillion dvd6000 laptop, AMD Turion 64×2, 3 Gigs RAM, > 60 Gig HD, etc…. for $549.00 at my local WalMart SuperCenter back in the > summer of ‘08. Added Comodo Internet Security (Free Firewall and AV) and a > few other freebie anti-malware programs as backups (SpywareBlaster, Spybot, > it came with Windows Defender) and it’s been running without problems for > the past six months. > > The only initial problem that I had was when installing Spybot, I had to go > to the Start Menu properties for Spybot and put a check mark in the “running > as an administrator” to make Spybot install and work properly. I guess for > beginners, the UAC security feature can be a pain but any new OS is a pain > to beginners. > > Fish! LOL > > Lenny Vasbinder > Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny.blogspot.com > (Links to any articles referenced in above reply are listed on the right > side, alphabetically under Labels and also under Archives by Year, Month) > > > —–Original Message—– > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Steve Szabo > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:57 PM > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > Remote access can be a risky route to take with Ray’s apparent problems. > He reports that he loses his messages prior to sending. Whether this is an > Internet connection problem through his ISP, or related to something n the > machine remains to be discovered. This is why it is best to have someone on > site to diagnose and, maybe, fix the problem. The other option is to look > for a computer to replace his own machine right now. A decent home machine > can be had for about $600, and, if you look in the right places, will come > with XP Pro installed and not that god awful Vista being foisted upon the > public. > > FWIW, the worst of it is incompatibilities with older software and hardware. > > \Steve// > > > > —–Original Message—– > > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of > > Lenny V. aka GoldLenny > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 1:01 PM > > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > > > I concur. Trying to diagnose and repair a machine without seeing > things > > first hand gets tricky. I always just head over to a friends or > relatives > > when they call me rather than trying to fix things over the phone. > > > > Logmein.com or other similar free apps do allow techies to access a > person’s > > computer for remote fixing if the frisky computer will allow the > > installation and there is internet access. Windows XP and up also has > a > > remote login program built in but I do not have experience with it. > > \Steve// might offer more info on the Windows app. I like > Logmein.com so I > > can use my main desktop computer directly from my laptop when I’m out > in the > > streets. > > > > Fish… LOL > > > > Lenny Vasbinder > > Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny.blogspot.com (Links to any articles > > referenced in above reply are listed on the > right > > side, alphabetically under Labels and also under Archives by Year, > Month) > > > > > > —–Original Message—– > > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com] > On > > Behalf Of Steve Szabo > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:27 AM > > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > > > Bill, > > > > With the problems he has reported, it would be way more efficient to > have > > eyes and other senses present to diagnose the problems he has and > effect the > > fixes. > > > > \Steve// > > > > > > > —–Original Message—– > > > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of > > > bill1433 > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 10:51 AM > > > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > > > > > I was thinking the same thing but can’t we conquer the distance by > > phone \Steve//? > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > — On Fri, 1/2/09, Steve Szabo wrote: > > > > > > From: Steve Szabo > > > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 10:37 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ray, > > > > > > You could probably grab one of the NJAS people to give you a hand in > > > either fixing your machine, or advising you in the purchase of a new > > (or > > > newer) one and getting it set up. If I was closer, I’d have offered > my > > > services to you long ago. > > > > > > \Steve// > > > > > > > —–Original Message—– > > > > From: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:AquaticLife@ > > yahoogroups. com] > > > On Behalf Of > > > > Raymond Wetzel > > > > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:02 AM > > > > To: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com > > > > Subject: [AquaticLife] Re: OT for Ray > > > > > > > > Harl, While I may know a few things about fish, having had them > for > > > > well over 60 years, computers are fairly new to me. I appreciate > the > > > > offer, but call me a computer dummy — I don’t know the first > thing > > > > about cut & paste, even though I suppose everyone does it every > day. > > > > I wasn’t born with computer skills, never had them in school and > > > > while everyone else seems to know this stuff, I don’t see where I > > can > > > > be expected to know even what might be considered by most to be > > among > > > > the simplest of operations as I’ve never learned how to pull them > > out > > > > of a hat. > > > > > > > > If the gmail site has all the instructions that a computer dummy > can > > > > easily understand without having to already know one’s way around > a > > > > PC, then fine, please do send me a gmail invite — especially if > it > > > > can be used while I type my replies on the group-site page. Many > > > > thanks, Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > — In AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com, “Harl Myers” ..> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > “As for the computer, what do you mean by “again”? It’s more > like > > > > > “still,” or on-going, as in “ever-after” only in this case > > its > > > > > not “happily” . Just lost a long reply to Lenny’s and > > > > > \Steve’s// discussion on global > warming/climate > > > > > change, yesterday afternoon. > > > > > Don’t know if I’ll bother to write it all again. ” > > > > > > > > > > I would be happy to send you a gmail invite, as it has a save > > draft > > > > > feature. > > > > > Or you could use your word processor, or even notepad to type > your > > > > replies, > > > > > save as you go and then cut and paste into the message when you > > are > > > > > complete… > > > > > > > > > > If you want a gmail invite just let me know… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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