[AquaticLife] Plant questions
I use HP in my house plants if I have bug issues, but I pour it into the dirt usually for the bugs that come up from the soil. I see no reason that you couldn’t dip the top of the plant if it’s a diluted form of HP and water. I use diluted HP in water when I pour it into the soil and it doesn’t harm the roots which seem like they would be easier to damage than the upper part of the plant as they don’t have any protection, but then again I’m not a plant specialist or anything, LOL.
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Lenny V. aka GoldLenny wrote: > > Well, the instructions I read, which I re-typed in my earlier post > just had > them spritzing/spraying the plants with the HP for a moment, then rinsing, > then the vinegar for a moment, then rinsing. I’m not sure if dipping them > (completely submerging), even if for a moment would be more harmful or > not. > I know that the 3% HP is an oxidizing agent but it quickly becomes > relatively inert when exposed to air or diluted in enough water, but > dipping > the plant, for even a moment in the HP might be too much oxidation. For > example, when treating plants or tank objects for algae when they are > still > in aquariums with fish, etc., you can use a syringe and use up to 1 oz. of > 3% HP per 10G without any adverse side effects from most plants or the > fish > but it does have an effect on the algae and even some plants where it was > spot treated. It’s mostly used for spot treatment of algae or certain > types > of stubborn algae. If you do decide to try and dip them, do it for as fast > of a period of time as you can and then have a second bucket of fresh > water > ready to submerge and lightly swoosh the plant in, right after the dip in > the HP, to make sure any HP residue is sufficiently diluted. Use a > different bucket of fresh water for the vinegar. Keep track of where you > place these more aggressively treated plants and be ready to remove > them if > they start to die off so they don’t foul your water… or at least > move them > to another tank to see if they survive. Some plants will appear to be > dying > (crypt melt for example) but then come back in many cases. > > Lenny Vasbinder > Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny.blogspot.com > (Links to any articles referenced in above reply are listed on the right > side, alphabetically under Labels and also under Archives by Year, Month) > > —–Original Message—– > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > ] On > Behalf Of Debra Penna-Fredericks > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:48 PM > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Plant questions > > Thank you, Lenny. I will check the sites you suggested soon. I look > forward > to trying a flowering plant if I can find one. It’s just a quirk, I think. > Once I couldn’t find one, I really wanted one. > > I think one of the articles linked on your website did mention something > about what to use on more sensitive plants. I just was not sure > whether Java > Moss, specifically, fit into the sensitive category. > > Since I am about to do some tank swapping (moving 10g contents to 29g and > 29g contents to 55g), I’ll be cleaning some of my plants (due to frog > death > of unknown nature in 10g) and buying some plants that will need to be > cleaned. I will try to remember to split my old plants to try the new > method > on some plants and one of the older methods on some plants for a > comparison. > > I do have a couple of questions about the new method. I assume we should > dunk the plants completely in the HP for 2 or 3 minutes, then the vinegar > rather than spray them since spraying might miss parts. And I assume the > vinegar is not diluted. My questions are 1. How long do I rinse with > vinegar > (just a quick dip)?, and 2. whether I need to rinse the plants with water > once I am finished? I am thinking about putting vinegar coated plants > in my > tank and thinking rinsing well with water would be a good idea. > > It’s going to be a few weeks before I can do this but I’ll let you > know what > happens when I do. > > Deb P. > > — On Sat, 1/10/09, Lenny V. aka GoldLenny > wrote: > From: Lenny V. aka GoldLenny > > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 5:25 AM > > http://www.aquartic les.com/articles /plants/FrancoVa > lias_aquatic_ flowers.html > > goes over some of the flowering plants, with pictures at the bottom, but > > they usually flower in the air above the water line although some will > > flower under water. It doesn’t usually happen unless conditions are just > > right. > > http://faq.thekrib. com/plant- list.html - scroll down to the “Rosette” > plants > > section… about 1/2 way down the page. You’ll also see the > ferns/mosses at > > the bottom. > > I think many people use shorter 5% bleach dip periods for Java Moss > and some > > other plants known to be more sensitive. The articles/links in my blog, on > > sanitizing plants, should go over this. I haven’t read them in a while so > > if they don’t, I need to add more info to that blog. Let me know. 
> > I was recently reading a forum thread on how to clean fruits, veggies, > > lettuce, etc. for human consumption and the concept of using two spray > > bottles.. one with full consumer strength hydrogen peroxide (usually a 3% > > solution) and one with vinegar (plain white).. and then spritzing the > > plants/veggies with these two. Spray one, let it sit a moment, rinse, then > > spray with the other, let it sit a moment and rinse. Do not mix the two at > > the same time. Supposedly, university experiments are being done that show > > this process works better than bleach at killing pathogens such as e. > coli, > > salmonella, etc., without the chance of a chlorine aftertaste in your > > food… which could also cause you digestive issues. I haven’t done any > > Google Scholar searches for more details but the concept certainly seems > > viable to me. I think someone who is about to set up a new planted tank > > should experiment with this to see how well this might work on aquatic > > plants (hint, hint)… at least it should work for killing any > possible bad > > bacteria and the HP would probably work on most, if not all, algae > spores on > > the plants. HP is already used in aquaria and I’ve spot treated a > > filamentous algae using a syringe with HP in a stocked aquarium. Of > course, > > this HP/Vinegar treatment was being used on plants/veggies that were about > > to be cooked or eaten fresh… not to be sanitized prior to planting in an > > aquarium so the treatment may not be suitable for aquarium plants if the > > mortality rate is higher than the procedures we currently use… but I > > thought it was an interesting twist on milder sanitizing/disinfec ting > agents > > that could be used on plants going into our aquariums. Alum treatment > would > > still be needed for ridding the plant of the potential for snails/eggs. > > The next time I set up a tank with newly acquired plants.. or if I > ever feel > > the need to sanitize any of my current plants, I’ll give it a try but I > > don’t anticipate doing this any time soon. > > Lenny Vasbinder > > Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny. blogspot. com > > (Links to any articles referenced in above reply are listed on the right > > side, alphabetically under Labels and also under Archives by Year, Month) > > —–Original Message—– > > From: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com] > On > > Behalf Of Debra Penna-Fredericks > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:14 PM > > To: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com > > Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] No experience with LIVE aquarium plants- Now > > Plant questions > > Excuse me for jumping in on this conversation. I have a question about > Java > > Moss. I have never worked with it but always thought it was pretty cool. I > > wondered if it would hold up to being dipped in any of the various > > disinfectants linked off of your website, Lenny, before being placed > in the > > tank? Also, do I remember hearing that it can be completely dried out and > > still put into water and then it will start growing again? > > I have a second plant question. I wondered if anyone knew of a good > > flowering plant for a freshwater aquarium and a good source from which to > > but it? I would like to find something with small (tiny?) flowers that > grow > > on an underwater plant. I am thinking of something that grows in bunches > > rather than a lily type. > > Thank you all for the help you give to everyone on this site. > > Deb P. (still new to the site) > >
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