[AquaticLife] Breaking The Rules!
Hi Bill, I doubt they are wild as I lost 2 out of 4 of them when I first got them (died overnight, like all fish seem to do when they die at my house). They are long finned blue rams, the 2 that I have left seem pretty healthy and happy though. I haven’t posted any pics of my new tank or new fish the last few weeks (Christmas shipping as started and I’ve been busier than usual), but it’s on my to-do list for sure! 
I’m considering using my Q 10 gallon tank for a temporary guppy birth center just to see how big I can raise the fry 
The LFS worker said she’d take them off my hands for me if I end up with too many, LOL. She uses them as feeders in her tanks. I have some floating plants but the fry don’t make it more than 24 hours with my hungry food seekers especialy the angel’s and the severum, and the female betta lays in wait like a predator LOL.
Amber
bill1433 wrote: > Hi Amber, > > I may just hold you to that because it may take that long to find > the “wild fish” I want. Do you know if yours are tank raised or from the wild? > > I knew that finding good stock would not be easy but I never figured on > all the “water problems” just to get them here either. > > By the way, have you posted any pictures of them yet? > > Bill > > — On Thu, 12/11/08, Amber Berglund wrote: > > From: Amber Berglund > Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] Breaking The Rules! > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 2:39 PM > > > > > > > If I ever get any babies from my long finned blue ram pair you’ll be the > first I email Bill, LOL. > My pH is 6 and I have very soft water too I have a very happy little > couple too, I’m hoping maybe someday in the future they start showing > more breeding habits, so far I’ve only had the male for a couple of > weeks and the female a couple weeks longer than that. Definitely > male/female though I can tell in the coloring differences and how they > act toward each other (follow each other around the tank). I like the > male’s coloring more of course, so pretty > > Amber > > Lenny V. aka GoldLenny wrote: > >> Check on Aquabid.com. Post messages in their forums. I am sure that >> someone, somewhere is breeding/raising the fish you seek in similar water >> parameters to your source water so that you do not have to go through such >> drastic measures just to acclimate the new fish… especially since these >> fish do best in acidic soft water conditions. Heck, someone with that kind >> of water, with an unlimited supply from a well similar to yours, would be >> most likely to decide to start breeding acidic soft water fish. >> >> Lenny Vasbinder >> Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny. blogspot. com >> (Links to articles referenced above listed on the right side under >> Archives >> - Year, Month and under Labels) >> >> >> —–Original Message—– >> From: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com >> >> [mailto:AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com >> ] On >> Behalf Of bill1433 >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:40 AM >> To: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com >> Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Breaking The Rules! >> >> Yes Lenny, >> >> All of that may be true to some extent. But let’s look at a few facts, as >> they are presented. >> First, there is no supplier even remotely close to me that has these fish, >> much less the water parameters I need, why? Its well water! They can’t >> match this type of pH and even if they could, they sure can’t match my >> water >> hardness, none! >> >> Next, would they say or go through all of this with a potential new >> customer >> with whom they want to sell even more goods too? I think not. A failure >> would most certainly guarantee the lose of a good customer. What business >> today can afford that? >> >> Finally, put it in writing? Give me a brake here! That’s how the got Nixon >> and the Watergate Tapes I believe. Nobody puts anything in writing these >> days BUT they do guarantee the fish to live delivery, provided their >> acclamation instructions are carried out properly. Hint? Part of their >> acclamation instructions cover water parameters and that is in writing.. >> >> doing the best I can with what I’ve got! >> >> Bill >> >> — On Thu, 12/11/08, Lenny V. aka GoldLenny > > wrote: >> >> From: Lenny V. aka GoldLenny > > >> Subject: RE: [AquaticLife] Breaking The Rules! >> To: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com >> Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 11:10 AM >> >> Or you could check around for a seller that has the fish you want and have >> them in the kind of water you have… or at least closer to it. >> >> I would do that rather than try to acclimate the fish that much…. unless >> your current proposed seller will guarantee that their advice will >> work and >> will give you a full refund for the fish and all the chemicals if/when it >> doesn’t. Ask them to put it in writing… I bet they’ll start hemming, >> hawing and crawfishing like political friends of Blago right now! LOL >> >> Lenny Vasbinder >> Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny. blogspot. com (Links to articles referenced >> above listed on the right side under Archives >> - Year, Month and under Labels) >> >> —–Original Message—– >> From: AquaticLife@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:AquaticLife @ yahoogroups. com] >> On Behalf Of bill1433 >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 9:31 AM >> To: AquaticLife >> Subject: [AquaticLife] Breaking The Rules! >> >> Sometime ago I tried changing my water parameters, I was moderately >> successful but I could not hold the settings I wish to keep (I did not >> buffer with crushed coral at this time) so in the end, I had to just lower >> back down to the water baseline parameters I had and bow to all that I >> should not have “played in the water” in the first place. But now I >> have to! >> >> While doing all of this, it was also with the understanding that I would >> ALSO be trying to match the same parameters of the LPS water parameters >> where I was buying the fish (Wal-Mart)! This is NOW the case in spades! >> >> Most of you know I want to keep Blue Rams. (No you can’t order them around >> here! People think Blue Rams are trucks)! To that end, I recently >> contacted >> an on-line shipper. Yes they had the Blue Rams and at a reasonable price. >> Since I also wanted some Bronze Cory cats the deal, with shipping, seemed >> quite do-able until I remembered the >> rules——- ——— –Water Parameters– –what are theirs! >> >> Ah Ha! Now we have trouble! Here are their water parameters: >> pH 7.5 >> GH 200-400 PPM ( 11-22 DEGREES) >> KH 50-100 ppm ( 3-6 DEGREES) >> Temperature 78-82 degrees >> Now here are Bill’s readings: pH 5.5 GH 1 KH barely readable but I do have >> the temperature covered at 80 degrees. >> Getting on the phone with their staff Marine Biologist, she recommends >> a set >> of two possible combinations, the first: Acid buffer ( item # 198597) 1/2 >> teaspoon and an Alkaline buffer ( item # 198745) 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons >> of water. Use them in conjunction with each other. There are charts on >> them >> showing you how long to use it and amounts for the target pH you are >> looking >> for. The item numbers are for products they sell. And the second set: >> Kent Marine’s pH Stable and SeaChem’s Neutral Regulator are two other >> products that you would also be able to use to raise your pH and >> buffer your >> hardness. >> Now when I asked about the baking soda and crushed coral buffer, she >> simply >> said “How fast do you want to do all of this”? And she also said I would >> assume that after the fish are acclimated to the new tank, you will then >> take them back down to your parameters, I said yes. She said to use the >> chemicals she stated. >> Folks, obviously, there are many roads to get to the same destination >> but in >> considering all, which is the best and safest for the fish? It would seem, >> in my case, the chemicals win out. It should also be stated that I >> would be >> doing this in a new tank and after the required readings are reached, then >> the use of One and Only to cycle and prepare for the fish. What are your >> thoughts, please? >> >> Bill >> >> _____ >> >> avast! 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