[AquaticLife] Big problem
Thanks Lenny, Gives me some material to study in my spare time. Some of us do care about the details. I guess that is what make people Engineers?
Sam,
Lenny V. aka GoldLenny wrote: > > With pH, there is 7.0 (neutral) and then there are lower pH (acidic/acid) > and higher pH (basic/base). > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid-base_reaction_theories > The pH down > type > product is an acid which reacted with the basic chemical substances in the > water which then caused the pH crash. > > I’m not sure when and where the word “alkaline” or “alkalinity” came into > being misused when talking about higher pH levels but unfortunately I > see it > misused in many website articles and even some aquarium related magazine > articles. I think that someone, somewhere wanted a new word to > describe the > higher pH levels rather than calling them “basic” since the word > “basic” is > more commonly used when describing basic things not related to pH. Another > reason is that alkaline chemical agents (salts, calcium carbonate, > limestone, etc.) did raise the pH of the water so a basic water with a pH > above 7.0 usually also has higher levels of alkaline substances in the > water… but not always. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline > explains that alkali is a “basic” > (high pH) ionic salt of an alkali metal or alkaline earth metal element. > Alkalis are best known for being bases. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_ > (chemistry) In chemistry, a base > is most > commonly thought of as an aqueous substance that can accept protons. This > refers to the Brønsted-Lowry theory of acids and bases > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid-base_reaction_theories#The_protonic_.28Br > > .C3.B8nsted-Lowry.29_definition). > > Lenny Vasbinder > Fish Blog - http://GoldLenny.blogspot.com > > —–Original Message—– > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > ] On > Behalf Of Sam Palermo > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:26 PM > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] Big problem > > Hi Steve, > I did not know we get that far into chemistry here as I would have > made the > same mistake. Can you elaborate on why a base water characteristic is not > the same as alkaline. > I took regular chemistry as well as Organic and after all these years, I > don’t remember the differences. > > Best regards, > > Sam Palermo, Chief Engineer > Skywave Broadcast Engineering, Chicago > (708)334-2260 > Past Teac/Tascam Service Technician still doing repairs. > > Steve Szabo wrote: > > > > Testing the alkalinity of the water will give one an idea of the > > buffering capability of the water. This is not the same as the > > alkaline water reference when the pH is high. That is really a > > misnomer, and it is more correct to refer to the acidity or baseness > > of the water. A higher pH means that the water is more base, not > alkaline. > > > > \Steve// > > > > —–Original Message—– > > From: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > [mailto:AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > ] On Behalf Of Dora Smith > > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:44 PM > > To: AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] Big problem > > > > A well! Heh, heh, heh. Could be it has natural buffering of some sort. > > Did you have to file a report with some agency on what is in your water? > > If so it should tell you certain hardness and alkalinity numbers, and > > what natural buffering agents might be in the water, if there is alot > > of one sort of ion, and that sort of thing. > > > > You can do some of this testing with aquarium testing kits you can > > get. A better idea would be to ahve proper water testing done - if it > > wasn’t done because it was required by law. In Texas everyone has to > > file complete reports on even their backyard wells. > > Yours, > > Dora Smith > > Austin, TX > > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > > > > > —– Original Message —– > > From: “Matt” > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 7:41 PM > > Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] Big problem > > > > funny thing about that, i dont have city water, i live on the side of > > a mountain with a well. > > .·´¯´`·.¸¸.> .·´¯`·.¸¸.> .·´¯`·.¸¸.> Matt Musky > > —– Original Message —– > > From: Dora Smith > > To: aquaticlife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 8:05 PM > > Subject: Re: [AquaticLife] Big problem > > > > This sort of thing is why I explained about ph swings and the fact > > that public water supplies are often buffered to tend to always return > > to and stay at certain levels. I think I urged you to have a talk with > > someone at your public water quality lab before you did something else. > > > > Yours, > > Dora Smith > > Austin, TX > > tiggernut24@yahoo.com > > > > > —– Original Message —– > > From: “Matt” > > > > > > To: > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 3:01 PM > > Subject: [AquaticLife] Big problem > > > > hey everyone, ive got something weird going on with my 30 gallon Fresh > > water tank. > > > > this morning, everything was fine i went to add a little pH down, > > because it was high, about 7.6. about 30 to 45 minutes later, i > > checked it, and the pH was about 6.0! so i did a 25 percent water > > change, i checked the water sorce pH and its about 7.0, and the tank > > rebounded to 7.6…. and on top of all this, i believe my fish have > > ich. all of this has happend in about 6 hours or so…. i have now > > treated the tank with Kordon Rid-ich+. > > > > help please!? > > .·´¯´`·.¸¸.> .·´¯`·.¸¸.> .·´¯`·.¸¸.> Matt Musky > > > > > > _____ > > avast! 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