Angelfish laying eggs
Thanks for all the info Ray, I figured I didn’t have a good environment for breeding angel’s, but was actually surprised that they started to breed as I didn’t think I had a male/female. My silver/black striped angel is actually my favorite (she’s the female) I think she’s much more colorful than the Koi, but then the Koi did go through a case of fin/tail rot back in october and he still hasn’t fully grown back everything, not to mention he just has hardly any black spots like the rest of the Koi Angel’s at the LFS seem to (or even the ones I see online), will he develop more black spots or are the ones he has all he will get? I noticed my other Angel got darker with food and age, and also gets even darker when she’s mad, LOL. My Koi Angel doesn’t seem to do the same thing, he’s white/orange with just a few spots on the top of his head. Originally I had 2 Koi Angel’s back in September, but one of them died in the fin/tail rot, which happened to be the prettier Koi, LOL figures 
. Also would breeding these two different types of Angel’s be a “bad breeder” move for fish? I know it’s not good to cross-breed with some other animals but wasn’t sure about fish. I could probably use the 55 gallon tank as their breeding tank (since it’s currently empty), but I haven’t decided if I want to go that route, my LFS doesn’t have any brine shrimp eggs so I will have to order that and then figure out how to raise the fry properly, LOL. Perhaps later down the line I will do this, after all my Angel’s aren’t even fully grown they’re only about 3 1/2-4 inches at this point, but my severum is out growing everything in the tank pretty quick, and is already getting his light orange markings on his fins (nothing on his body yet), he’s easily over 4 inches, and if he’d sit still I’d measure him, LOL. I really do need to get some more pics up, I’ve just been so preoccupied with the holidays lately.
Amber
Raymond Wetzel wrote: > > Amber, While I regretfully have been having computer problems (lock- > ups) lately, resulting in my being too busy to do any > posting/replying these last few days from my time being backed up > through wasted efforts along these lines, please be aware that your > present set up is not condusive to raising Angels and any faster > response on my part would not have changed this. > > With your Angelfish pair residing in a “semi-aggressive aquarium” > community tank with “a few ‘passive’ fish as well,” this would > preclude any possiblity of your raising any fry to even a juvenile > stage even with the use of a divider (unless this were solid). The > familiar and often-used “egg-crate” dividers would allow the free > swimming of fry through them, only to be eaten by the other tank > mates, and while the parents will endeavor to keep their fry gathered > to the vicinity of the spawning site, over time especially as they > get just a little older (by a week or so) these fry will explore and > wander where they will and get picked off one by one by the other > fish in short time. > > You would need a solid partition, by as you’ve already seen, even > this will not guarantee the potential fry’s safety when the parents > decide to eat them as eggs. You cannot remove the eggs to the 10 > gallon tank when you have a female Guppy there which will eat these > eggs (or fry, if they hatch), nor could you expect the angelfish > eggs/fry’s safety in the presence of Guppy fry — which are at least > 5 times larger than Angel fry when they’re first born, and will make > a meal of the Angel fry. > > If you’re intent on having the parent Angels raise their fry, you may > try keeping the eggs with them in hopes they’ll soon settle down to > them raising them rather than eating them, which may take 4 to 5 > tries or 15 to 20 tries (no way to know when they decide finally to > promote a new generation). You would need to install a solid divider > of opaque plastic, which will prevent adequate water circulation and > proper filtration of the entire water column for the duration of time > needed to rear the Angel fry to a size to where they won’t be eaten > by the other tankmates before you can remove this divider — not the > best situation in the tank’s normal maintenance requirements. > > An opaque divider, as a clear section would allow for the fry’s > viewing by the iother inhabitants, which would then be positioned up > against it, trying to gain access to the breeding site, which would > often be cause enough to cause the parents to eat their fry rather > than (in their way of responding to this perceived threat) have the > intruders devour them — the parents would have no idea that a clear > divider would hold the other fish back. Still, not the best > situation to raise Angel fry in, even with an opaque divider. > > Best results are always had when removing the Angel pair to a > spawning tank of their own, if you’re serious about raising their > fry, and while this will remove any perceived threat (by other fish) > to their spawn, as may have resulted in this last spawning, again > there is no guarantee they will not continue to eat their eggs, at > least not until they get the hang of how to raise them (if they want > to). Many breeders who don’t want to trust the indecisiveness of > their Angel pairs will remove the eggs to a separate rearing tank of > their own (no Guppies or other fry in this tank), supplying the Angel > pair with spawning slates to exchange when their spawns are > deposited — rather than repeatedly clipping aquatic plant leaves > until there is nothing left of the plant. > > BTW, your grey with black stripes Angelfish (I presume you mean > Silver w/black stripes) is the original wild type of color pattern. > Ray > > — In AquaticLife@yahoogroups.com > , Amber Berglund wrote: > > > > Replying to myself again here guess no one knows anything about > > breeding angel fish or they’re all busy, LOL. > > Anyways, the eggs are all gone today since I didn’t get an answer > last > > night if I should remove the leaf or what-not. I figure one of the > fish > > had a nice meal over night Maybe my angel’s will go for another > batch > > later or something. > > > > Amber > > > > Amber Berglund wrote: > > > > > > I forgot to say that the 10 gallon with fry is guppies, with one > female > > > that’s been popping out babies. > > > > > > Amber > > > > > > Amber Berglund wrote: > > > > > > > > Okay so my 2 angel fish apparently decided they really like > each other > > > > recently. They were fighting a bit more lately, and I figured > something > > > > was going on but didn’t think they would start laying eggs and > > > > fertilizing them. One (grey/black striped not sure what kind it > is > > > > precisely) is laying the eggs while my Koi angelfish comes in > and is > > > > apparently fertilizing them (I can see a slight cloud coming > out as he > > > > hovers over the leaf that the female laid eggs on), and the two > of them > > > > are definitely guarding the leaf. My question is this, how > likely is it > > > > for these babies to actually survive in a semi-aggressive > aquarium with > > > > a few “passive” fish as well? I could get a tank divider if it > might > > > > help somehow, wonder how much it will cost at my LFS, afterall > it’s a > > > > 125 gallon tank, LOL. On a side note it’s nice to see that they > are both > > > > very happy in their environment. All of the fish have increased > in size > > > > and color since I moved them into the bigger tank. > > > > I currently have a 10 gallon set up with 4 fry and an expecting > female > > > > (well I think she has laid the 4 fry in there and there are > more to > > > > come, but I could be wrong, LOL), could I just cut the leaf > with eggs on > > > > it off of the plant and put it into the 10 gallon or would that > be a bad > > > > idea? > > > > > > > > Amber > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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